{"id":176455051,"date":"2015-05-27T03:46:43","date_gmt":"2015-05-27T08:46:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/?p=176455051"},"modified":"2015-05-27T03:46:43","modified_gmt":"2015-05-27T08:46:43","slug":"interview-video-wayne-shorter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/2015\/05\/27\/interview-video-wayne-shorter\/","title":{"rendered":"INTERVIEW + VIDEO: Wayne Shorter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/billboard1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-176455052\" src=\"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/billboard1.jpg\" alt=\"billboard\" width=\"307\" height=\"69\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/billboard1.jpg 307w, https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/billboard1-300x67.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 307px) 100vw, 307px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>May 15, 2015<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1 id=\"page-title\" class=\"title\"><span style=\"font-size: 36pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Wayne Shorter <\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<h1 class=\"title\"><span style=\"font-size: 36pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">on Miles Davis, <\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<h1 class=\"title\"><span style=\"font-size: 36pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Kanye West, &amp; the<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<h1 class=\"title\"><span style=\"font-size: 36pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Music of the Future<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>By\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/author\/natalie-weiner-6494351\" rel=\"author\">Natalie Weiner<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_176455054\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/wayne-01.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-176455054\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-176455054\" src=\"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/wayne-01.jpg\" alt=\"Wayne Shorter performs on stage at the 2014 International Jazz Day Global Concert on April 30, 2014 in Osaka, Japan.   Keith Tsuji\/Getty Images for Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz\" width=\"600\" height=\"397\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/wayne-01.jpg 650w, https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/wayne-01-300x198.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-176455054\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt;\"><strong>Wayne Shorter performs on stage at the 2014 International Jazz Day Global Concert on April 30, 2014 in Osaka, Japan.<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt;\"><strong>Keith Tsuji\/Getty Images for Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">Speaking with\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/431141\/wayne-shorter\/chart\">Wayne Shorter<\/a>, whose prolific\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#694290\">CAREER<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0has placed him solidly in jazz&#8217;s canon, is nothing if not amusing. Legendary for his compositions and and compatriots alike (he&#8217;s played with everyone from\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/311267\/miles-davis\/chart\">Miles Davis<\/a>\u00a0to\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/278142\/santana\/chart\">Santana<\/a>\u00a0to the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra), Shorter approaches life (and conversation) with a unique blend of his adopted Buddhism and his passion for arts and culture. Over the course of our talk he alluded to Mo&#8217;nique, astrophysics, the NBA playoffs (he&#8217;s pulling for the Warriors), Jurassic Park, and\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/276709\/kanye-west\/chart\">Kanye West<\/a>\u00a0(among other things).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">It&#8217;s been 50 years since Shorter started playing with Miles Davis&#8217; now-classic Second Great Quintet &#8212; Shorter and Davis alongside\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/303462\/herbie-hancock\/chart\">Herbie Hancock<\/a>,\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/368066\/ron-carter\/chart\">Ron Carter<\/a>, and Tony Williams &#8212;\u00a0yet he remembers his time with Miles like it was yesterday. &#8220;I used to talk to Miles all the time,&#8221; he tells Billboard.\u00a0&#8220;A\u00a0lot of it was about health. &#8216;You know my left leg, there&#8217;s something wrong with it.&#8217; &#8221; (It&#8217;s important to<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#75741819\"> note<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> that every quote comes with an accompanying impression &#8212; his Miles voice is spot-on.) If the questions and answers seem unrelated, it&#8217;s because Shorter is about 50<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#93204190\">STEPS<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0ahead of the rest of us at any given time, somehow embracing philosophical discussion and laughter equally. &#8220;I&#8217;m drilling for wisdom,&#8221; he says.\u00a0&#8220;That&#8217;s the challenge.\u00a0I have to play wisdom and make it fun &#8212; not intellectual.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 24pt; color: #000000;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/62502\/qa-wayne-shorter\">Q&amp;A: Wayne Shorter<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">&#8220;Let&#8217;s take all this stuff into\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#93966170\">ACCOUNT<\/a>\u00a0and have a good time on the telephone,&#8221; Shorter told me during our interview.\u00a0&#8220;As\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/308504\/ludacris\/chart\">Ludacris<\/a>\u00a0says [yes, he quoted Ludacris], &#8216;That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about.&#8217; &#8220;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>How was it revisiting some of\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#25012735\">YOUR<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0older music for this\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jazz.org\/events\/t-2589\/Wayne-Shorter\">Wayne Shorter Festival<\/a>?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">Music is just sound &#8212; what&#8217;s more important to me is behavior. I&#8217;m watching these play-offs &#8212; basketball &#8212; it&#8217;s interesting to watch behavior, underneath all the movements and everything like that. They go into the audience and show some of the parents of the players and all that. I&#8217;m rooting for the team that has the kind of behavior that transcends great movement in the sport. If the athleticism is there, just like playing an instrument really well, but the behavior isn&#8217;t&#8230;I&#8217;m looking at these Golden [State] Warriors a little bit now.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">[on Steph Curry] He doesn&#8217;t beat his chest and throw threes and then stomp and make faces and fly like he&#8217;s gonna be Superman &#8212; he kind of reminds me of somebody my brother and I went to school with. We had a good friend &#8212; and he looks like this guy too &#8212; and his name was (dig this name) &#8212; his name was Pete Lonesome.\u00a0He was low-key, but he was avant-garde &#8212; he had the quiet\u00a0<em>thang<\/em>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fvRkGglLe-U\" width=\"510\" height=\"383\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>What is it like now that a place like Jazz at Lincoln Center\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#53114697\">EXISTS<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0&#8212; that jazz is kind of a part of the institution &#8212;\u00a0as compared to when you first started?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">When they say jazz, I&#8217;m thinking of a word called &#8220;the creative\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#68147481\">PROCESS<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>.&#8221; It intersects every vein and tributary, avenue, path, that everyone&#8217;s living. It crosses through there, but it&#8217;s been contained. Remember when the first\u00a0<em>Jurassic Park<\/em>movie started? This animal in this metal thing was making a lot of noise, and the voice said &#8220;CONTAIN HER!&#8221; The people who are containing it must seem to think that the creative<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#49266824\"> process<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> is like a dinosaur that needs to be contained &#8212; for little animals who lay golden eggs. They seem to place a lot of value on those coins &#8212; eggs. Every day is Easter. Jazz at Lincoln Center is something that is very necessary for the creative<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#52765463\"> process<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>, there&#8217;s a couple of brothers running around New York trying to buy up the cultural places who shall remain nameless. Well, there&#8217;s a lot of brothers &#8212; pick any two. Pin the tail on the&#8230;they want to buy up stuff and steer the country a certain way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">We need more creative stuff in everything &#8212; ballet, opera, all that. We need it.\u00a0I knew what it would take to stay on this path &#8212; I call it the trail less trodden, the non-pop path. I knew it &#8212; I said, &#8220;This is\u00a0gonna\u00a0be a lifetime thing, so get ready.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>What are you working on right now?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">Once I do what I&#8217;m doing, I&#8217;m going like this [breathes heavily]. Right now I have like 50 percent lung capacity. There&#8217;s rehearsals, and<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#33253092\"> going back<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> and forth, and\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#24831264\">TRAVELING TO NEW YORK<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0&#8212; I&#8217;m still on tour, but I have to walk carefully, and make what I do count.\u00a0We&#8217;re working on [a record]\u00a0now. We did the recording, and we&#8217;re going to do the mixing and stuff now. It was done with the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Who are you listening to?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">When Miles and I talked, he would ask me a question. &#8216;Wayne (in his voice), hey Wayne &#8212; do you ever get<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#90703368\"> tired<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> of playing music that sounds like music?&#8217; Before I answered him, he said, &#8216;I know what you mean.&#8217; Like, he&#8217;s answering his own question. He could go everywhere with that one\u00a0&#8212; music that sounds like you&#8217;ve<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#90614828\"> studied<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> music. Are you going for something that&#8217;s really unexpected and\u00a0in the world that&#8217;s unknown? It challenges people to be that way. Now, at a time where we really need to be fearless, and facing the unknown and the unexpected. Negotiating things that we have not been\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#78050844\">TRAINED<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0for.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">That&#8217;s what this music is about now. It&#8217;s all about that one moment equals eternity &#8212; the challenge to be in the moment is something else. When you get in the moment and you start improvising, it&#8217;s hard to lie. You can tell a story, and the story don&#8217;t have to be the truth, but it&#8217;s not necessarily a lie. If we go on with that old formula that used to work &#8212; businesswise too &#8212; it ain&#8217;t gonna work in this whole new &#8220;now you see me, now you don&#8217;t&#8221; world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Do you consider<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#54530846\">YOUR<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0music political?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">I&#8217;m trying to do music which inspires the desire to transcend politics, which has a limited and selfish and egoist and unknowledgable end about what anyone knows about<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#2454278\">EXISTENCE<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>. A lot of what people are talking about goes from here to there &#8212; there&#8217;s a limit. I&#8217;m doing music that can awaken people to the fact that we&#8217;ve all been hijacked from the cradle. Have you seen\u00a0<em>The Equalizer<\/em>\u00a0with Denzel Washington? It starts with<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#14954149\">A QUOTE<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0from Mark Twain &#8212; it says, &#8216;There are two great<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#39909730\"> events<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> in our existence: one is being born, the other is knowing why.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">I watch everything &#8212; I try to grab everything I can. Like\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/276709\/kanye-west\/chart\">Kanye West<\/a>\u00a0says, &#8220;<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/time.com\/3822841\/kanye-west-2015-time-100\/\">If I say something that has a little bit of truth in it, what is everybody else saying<\/a>?&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/RCyGBNKlrPI\" width=\"510\" height=\"383\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Do you see a future for fusion, for people inflecting other kinds of music with jazz or vice-versa?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">I think the future is based on anyone&#8217;s behavior. How much someone knows, and is dedicated to &#8212; not their music or their instrument, but their mission. Why they&#8217;ve been born. Not what anyone&#8217;s been telling you or pulling you into or sugarcoating you with or intellectualizing &#8212; giving us great awards for being a straight A student at Yale or Harvard and all that stuff, and still not knowing what in the hell is going on. Like Richard Pryor said, &#8216;I&#8217;m just standing in that long line looking up at who&#8217;s in front.&#8217;\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">A lot of people say that the future of fusion, and the avant-garde &#8212; a lot of people will give up doing that, because they say that the corporate powers-that-be are against us. Their grand plan is to keep us subjugated so they can go for the moneymaking stuff, the easy sell.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">The corporations serve as a resistance to the creative\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#21444439\">PROCESS<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>. But if you really kind of think of it, an airplane cannot take off without resistance. We have to find the jewel in what we call the enemy. That&#8217;s called wisdom. I&#8217;m drilling for wisdom. That&#8217;s the challenge &#8212; I have to play wisdom and make it fun &#8212; not intellectual. You can get all convoluted with all this book stuff and academics. As Art Blakey would say, &#8220;That stuff you&#8217;re playing sounds too clinical!\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/308288\/louis-armstrong\/chart\">Louis Armstrong<\/a>\u00a0didn&#8217;t start off that way!&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">Everything we&#8217;re talking about, at this point, at 81, I see as the human-damn-condition.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>How did you meet Miles Davis?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">I met him on the telephone. I called him when I got out of the army.\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/304915\/john-coltrane\/chart\">John Coltrane<\/a>\u00a0told me he was leaving Miles, and he said, &#8220;If you want this spot with Miles, you got it.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">Miles was still trying to hold onto John Coltrane, and he said to me on the<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#70553550\"> phone<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>, &#8220;Who told you to call me? If I want a saxophone player, I&#8217;ll find one.&#8221; He didn&#8217;t know who I was.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">But later on that year, I had<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#14509974\"> joined<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> the [Jazz] Messengers with\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/279969\/art-blakey\/chart\">Art Blakey<\/a>.\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/306849\/lee-morgan\/chart\">Lee Morgan<\/a>\u00a0was on the bandstand sitting next to me, and he said, &#8220;Wayne &#8212; Miles is in the audience.&#8221; Miles was slick, always incognito. He said, &#8220;Miles is<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#57171558\"> checking<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> you out. Checking out the writing (they played some of my arrangements).&#8221; Then he called, shortly after that. I had just joined the Messengers, so I told Miles, &#8220;You know I&#8217;ve only been with this band, not even a year yet. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s cool to just run, and leave &#8217;em. I don&#8217;t think anybody likes a Benedict Arnold.&#8221; He said, &#8220;I know what you mean. When you&#8217;re ready, call me.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">I was ready to say, &#8220;I did!&#8221; Then we hung up at the same time &#8212; I was timing his rhythm. He said, &#8220;Call me!&#8221; and then\u00a0<em>click<\/em>. Then he called again during a rehearsal. I was rehearsing with Art, and Lee Morgan. The<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#83963519\"> phone<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> rings, and Art&#8217;s playing the drums over there kind of quiet because the phone rang. Lee said real loud (in front of Art), &#8220;Hey Wayne, it&#8217;s\u00a0<em>Miles<\/em>\u00a0&#8212; he wants to talk to you.&#8221; So I did my diplomatic thing in front of Art Blakey. I forgot what I said, but whatever I said was real cool. Again he said, &#8220;When you&#8217;re ready just give me a call.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">Around 1964, when I left, that&#8217;s when I called Miles. I was told to call him by his manager. Miles got on the phone, he was in California and I was in New York. He said, &#8220;You in New York?&#8221; I said, &#8220;Yeah.&#8221; He said, &#8220;Come on.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">He sent me a first class<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#5869953\"> ticket<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>, and a tuxedo made for me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/K0PAhPjieVg\" width=\"510\" height=\"383\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">The first\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#90537598\">JOB<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0I had with Miles, I flew to California and he was playing the Hollywood Bowl. I walked into his dressing<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#71756109\"> room<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>, and everybody was there &#8212;\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/303462\/herbie-hancock\/chart\">Herbie Hancock<\/a>, Tony Williams,\u00a0<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/artist\/368066\/ron-carter\/chart\">Ron Carter<\/a>, Miles and his wife Frances. The first thing Miles said to me was, &#8220;You know my music?&#8221; I said, &#8220;Yeah!&#8221; He said, &#8220;Uh-oh,&#8221; like, &#8220;You think you bad, huh?&#8221;\u00a0I had this book under my arm. He looked at the book before we went onstage &#8212; I had a lot of stuff I was writing in there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">We went out onstage, and the first thing he played was something called &#8220;Joshua.&#8221; It has a lot of stuff in it. We played, we played, we played. It was over, and I went to my<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#58660624\"> hotel<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>, and the<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#70363056\">PHONE<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0rang. It was Miles. He said, &#8220;We&#8217;re gonna record Monday.&#8221; He hung up and I hung up at the same time again. I&#8217;m thinking, &#8220;He must have heard something worth recording.&#8221;\u00a0I brought the book with me, and he looked at the music. The first thing he saw was &#8220;E.S.P.&#8221; He said, &#8220;Let&#8217;s try this.&#8221; So we did it. The next time he called about recording, he said &#8220;We&#8217;re gonna record next Wednesday. Bring the book.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">Later on when\u00a0<em>Bitches Brew<\/em>\u00a0and all that stuff came out, everything transitioned. I had a lot of fun with Miles. This band that I&#8217;m with now, it&#8217;s like the same kind of fun. Because you&#8217;re on<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#81903173\">YOUR<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0own. You&#8217;re a universe and beyond. If you wanna do something, you&#8217;d better stay on<a class=\"wizldpzjl\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"#91597781\"> your<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> toes &#8212; you study your stuff, you sponge up whatever you can.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">He would call me and he would say, &#8220;Hey Wayne, come on over.&#8221; We&#8217;d talk a little bit about opera, or a painter. [on operas] Certain sections, he&#8217;d say, &#8220;That section right there, somebody should be playing in there.&#8221; He was talking about himself. Before he passed away, he called me and said, &#8220;Write something for orchestra for me. But when you get to the strings, put a<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#56894290\">WINDOW<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0in\u00a0so I can get out of there.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14pt;\">The fun was never rehearsing, we never rehearsed. Nobody was ever told what to do or how to dress &#8212; except for the tuxedo.\u00a0But the tuxedo\u00a0<a class=\"twmaqnoi\" style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Click to Continue &gt; by mi-1519\" href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future#31677604\">DISAPPEARED<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdncache-a.akamaihd.net\/items\/it\/img\/arrow-10x10.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\u00a0after the first year.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&gt;via:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.billboard.com\/articles\/news\/6568518\/wayne-shorter-miles-davis-kanye-west-the-music-of-the-future<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; May 15, 2015 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Wayne Shorter on Miles Davis, Kanye West, &amp; the Music of the Future &nbsp; By\u00a0Natalie Weiner &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Speaking with\u00a0Wayne Shorter, whose prolific\u00a0CAREER\u00a0has placed him solidly in jazz&#8217;s canon, is nothing if not amusing. Legendary for his compositions and and compatriots alike (he&#8217;s played with everyone [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","_s2mail":"yes"},"categories":[6],"tags":[4,12,11],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/176455051"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=176455051"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/176455051\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":176455055,"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/176455051\/revisions\/176455055"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=176455051"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=176455051"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=176455051"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}