{"id":176428576,"date":"2013-11-28T12:16:38","date_gmt":"2013-11-28T18:16:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/?p=176428576"},"modified":"2013-11-28T12:16:38","modified_gmt":"2013-11-28T18:16:38","slug":"history-interview-ramona-peters-what-really-happened-at-the-first-thanksgiving","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/2013\/11\/28\/history-interview-ramona-peters-what-really-happened-at-the-first-thanksgiving\/","title":{"rendered":"HISTORY + INTERVIEW: Ramona Peters &#8211; What Really Happened at the First Thanksgiving?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Indian Country Today Media Network.com\" src=\"http:\/\/d1jrw5jterzxwu.cloudfront.net\/sites\/default\/files\/ictmn-web-logo-200x90.png\" \/><br \/>\n11\/23\/12<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div id=\"attachment_176428577\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/thanksgiving.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-176428577\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-176428577\" alt=\"This is a popular image of the first Thanksgiving, a painting by Jean Leon Gerome Ferris. But this is definitely NOT what happened.\" src=\"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/thanksgiving.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"382\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/thanksgiving.jpg 600w, https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/thanksgiving-300x191.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-176428577\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: small;\"><strong>This is a popular image of the first Thanksgiving, a painting by Jean Leon Gerome Ferris. But this is definitely NOT what happened.<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: xx-large;\"><strong>What Really Happened <\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: xx-large;\"><strong>at the First Thanksgiving? <\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: xx-large;\"><strong>The Wampanoag Side of the Tale<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com\/advanced\/search?fq[0]=ts_field_full_name%3AGale%20Courey%20Toensing\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Gale Courey Toensing<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><i>When you hear about the Pilgrims and \u201cthe Indians\u201d harmoniously sharing the \u201cfirst Thanksgiving\u201d meal in 1621, the Indians referred to so generically are the ancestors of the contemporary members of the Wampanoag Nation. As the story commonly goes, the Pilgrims who sailed from England on the Mayflower and landed at what became Plymouth, Massachusetts, in 1620 had a good harvest the next year. So Plymouth Gov. William Bradford organized a feast to celebrate the harvest and invited a group of \u201cNative American allies, including the Wampanoag chief Massasoit\u201d to the party. The feast lasted three days and, according to chronicler Edward Winslow, Bradford send four men on a \u201cfowling mission\u201d to prepare for the feast and the Wampanoag guests brought five deer to the party. And ever since then, the story goes, Americans have celebrated Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday of November. Not exactly, Ramona Peters, the Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe\u2019s Tribal Historic Preservation Officer told Indian Country Today Media Network<\/i><i>\u00a0in a conversation on the day before Thanksgiving 2012\u2014391 years since that mythological \u201cfirst Thanksgiving.\u201d<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_176428578\" style=\"width: 556px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/ramona-peters.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-176428578\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-176428578 \" alt=\"Ramona Peters\" src=\"http:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/ramona-peters-682x1024.jpg\" width=\"546\" height=\"819\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/ramona-peters-682x1024.jpg 682w, https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/ramona-peters-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/kalamu.com\/neogriot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/ramona-peters.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 546px) 100vw, 546px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-176428578\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: small;\"><strong>Ramona Peters<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">We know what we\u2019re taught in mainstream media and in schools is made up. What\u2019s the Wampanoag version of what happened?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Yeah, it was made up. It was Abraham Lincoln who used the theme of Pilgrims and Indians eating happily together. He was trying to calm things down during the Civil War when people were divided. It was like a nice unity story.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">So it was a political thing?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Yes, it was public relations. It\u2019s kind of genius, in a way, to get people to sit down and eat dinner together. Families were divided during the Civil War.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">So what really happened?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">We made<a title=\"Latest copy Coin Celebrates 1621 Wampanoag Treaty\" href=\"http:\/\/indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com\/2011\/01\/07\/latest-1-coin-celebrates-1621-wampanoag-treaty-10063\" target=\"_self\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">a treaty<\/span><\/a>. The leader of our nation at the time\u2014Yellow Feather Oasmeequin [Massasoit] made a treaty with (John) Carver [the first governor of the colony]. They elected an official while they were still on the boat. They had their charter. They were still under the jurisdiction of the king [of England]\u2014at least that\u2019s what they told us. So they couldn\u2019t make a treaty for a boatload of people so they made a treaty between two nations\u2014England and the Wampanoag Nation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">What did the treaty say?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">It basically said we\u2019d let them be there and we would protect them against any enemies and they would protect us from any of ours. [The<a title=\"Latest copy Coin Celebrates 1621 Wampanoag Treaty\" href=\"http:\/\/indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com\/2011\/01\/07\/latest-1-coin-celebrates-1621-wampanoag-treaty-10063\" target=\"_self\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">2011 Native American copy coin<\/span><\/a>commemorates the 1621 treaty between the Wampanoag tribe and the Pilgrims of Plymouth colony.] It was basically an I\u2019ll watch your back, you watch mine\u2019 agreement. Later on we collaborated on jurisdictions and creating a system so that we could live together.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">What\u2019s the Mashpee version of the 1621 meal?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">You\u2019ve probably heard the story of how Squanto assisted in their planting of corn? So this was their first successful harvest and they were celebrating that harvest and planning a day of their own thanksgiving. And it\u2019s kind of like what some of the Arab nations do when they celebrate by shooting guns in the air. So this is what was going on over there at Plymouth. They were shooting guns and canons as a celebration, which alerted us because we didn\u2019t know who they were shooting at. So Massasoit gathered up some 90 warriors and showed up at Plymouth prepared to engage, if that was what was happening, if they were taking any of our people. They didn\u2019t know. It was a fact-finding mission.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">When they arrived it was explained through a translator that they were celebrating the harvest, so we decided to stay and make sure that was true, because we\u2019d seen in the other landings\u2014[Captain John] Smith, even the<a title=\"Vikings\" href=\"http:\/\/indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com\/tag\/vikings\" target=\"_self\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Vikings<\/span><\/a>had been here\u2014so we wanted to make sure so we decided to camp nearby for a few days. During those few days, the men went out to hunt and gather food\u2014deer, ducks, geese, and fish. There are 90 men here and at the time I think there are only 23 survivors of that boat, the Mayflower, so you can imagine the fear. You have armed Natives who are camping nearby. They [the colonists] were always vulnerable to the new land, new creatures, even the trees\u2014there were no such trees in England at that time. People forget they had just landed here and this coastline looked very different from what it looks like now. And their culture\u2014new foods, they were afraid to eat a lot of things. So they were very vulnerable and we did protect them, not just support them, we protected them. You can see throughout their journals that they were always nervous and, unfortunately, when they were nervous they were very aggressive.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">So the Pilgrims didn\u2019t invite the Wampanoags to sit down and eat turkey and drink some beer?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">[laughs] Ah, no. Well, let\u2019s put it this way. People did eat together [but not in what is portrayed as \u201cthe first Thanksgiving]. It was our homeland and our territory and we walked all through their villages all the time. The differences in how they behaved, how they ate, how they prepared things was a lot for both cultures to work with each other. But in those days, it was sort of like today when you go out on a boat in the open sea and you see another boat and everyone is waving and very friendly\u2014it\u2019s because they\u2019re vulnerable and need to rely on each other if something happens. In those days, the English really needed to rely on us and, yes, they were polite as best they could be, but they regarded us as savages nonetheless.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">So you did eat together sometimes, but not at the legendary Thanksgiving meal.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">No. We were there for days. And this is another thing: We give thanks more than once a year in formal ceremony for different season, for the green corn thanksgiving, for the arrival of certain fish species, whales, the first snow, our new year in May\u2014there are so many ceremonies and I think most cultures have similar traditions. It\u2019s not a foreign concept and I think human beings who recognize greater spirit then they would have to say thank you in some formal way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">What are Mashpee Wampanoags taught about Thanksgiving now?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Most of us are taught about the friendly Indians and the friendly Pilgrims and people sitting down and eating together. They really don\u2019t go into any depth about that time period and what was going on in 1620. It was a whole different mindset. There was always focus on food because people had to work hard to go out and forage for food, not the way it is now. I can remember being in<a title=\"Oklahoma\" href=\"http:\/\/indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com\/tag\/oklahoma\" target=\"_self\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Oklahoma<\/span><\/a>amongst a lot of different tribal people when I was in junior college and<a title=\"Thanksgiving\" href=\"http:\/\/indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com\/tag\/thanksgiving\" target=\"_self\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Thanksgiving<\/span><\/a>was coming around and I couldn\u2019t come home\u2014it was too far and too expensive\u2014and people were talking about, Thanksgiving, and, yeah, the Indians! And I said, yeah, we\u2019re the Wampanoags. They didn\u2019t know! We\u2019re not even taught what kind of Indians, Hopefully, in the future, at least for Americans, we do need to get a lot brighter about other people.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">So, basically, today the Wampanoag celebrate Thanksgiving the way Americans celebrate it, or celebrate it<i>as<\/i>Americans?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Yes, but there\u2019s another element to this that needs to be noted as well. The Puritans believed in Jehovah and they were listening for Jehovah\u2019s directions on a daily basis and trying to figure out what would please their God. So for Americans, for the most part there\u2019s a Christian element to Thanksgiving so formal prayer and some families will go around the table and ask what are you thankful for this year. In Mashpee families we make offerings of tobacco. For traditionalists, we give thanks to our first mother, our human mother, and to Mother Earth. Then, because there\u2019s no real time to it you embrace your thanks in passing them into the tobacco without necessarily speaking out loud, but to actually give your mind and spirit together thankful for so many things\u2026 Unfortunately, because we\u2019re trapped in this cash economy and this 9-to-5 [schedule], we can\u2019t spend the normal amount of time on ceremonies, which would last four days for a proper Thanksgiving.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Do you regard Thanksgiving as a positive thing?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">As a concept, a heartfelt Thanksgiving is very important to me as a person. It\u2019s important that we give thanks. For me, it\u2019s a state of being. You want to live in a state of thanksgiving, meaning that you use the creativity that the Creator gave you. You use your talents. You find out what those are and you cultivate them and that gives thanks in action.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">And will your family do something for Thanksgiving?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Yes, we\u2019ll do the rounds, make sure we contact family members, eat with friends and then we\u2019ll all celebrate on Saturday at the<a title=\"Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe\" href=\"http:\/\/mashpeewampanoagtribe.com\/blog\/?p=355\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">social<\/span><\/a>and dance together with the drum.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<address>&gt;via:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com\/2012\/11\/23\/what-really-happened-first-thanksgiving-wampanoag-side-tale-and-whats-done-today-145807\">http:\/\/indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com\/2012\/11\/23\/what-really-happened-first-thanksgiving-wampanoag-side-tale-and-whats-done-today-145807<\/a><\/address>\n<address>\u00a0<\/address>\n<address>\u00a0<\/address>\n<address>\u00a0<\/address>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>11\/23\/12 What Really Happened at the First Thanksgiving? 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